Friday, April 21, 2006

Freelance vs Physio

Hi all

Just got these wise words from Martin Hawes about the extra work question:

Steph

Thank goodness Matt got rid of those bought lunches. Think of it this way: $8 per day is $40 per week, $168 per month, or around $2,000 each year. If you saved that money at 5% interest, in 30 years you would have almost $133,000 - see for yourself using Sorted’s regular savings calculator. Expensive lunches! (You would be even better off if you applied that $168 per month to additional mortgage payments.)

When I think about whether Matt should freelance or whether you should take on part-time work, it’s a more difficult question. Financially, you would be better off having Matt doing some freelance work. By the time that you have paid childcare and transport costs, there will be more money from Matt’s work than yours. Especially since his hourly rate is higher.

However, there is another really important factor: being out of the workforce means that you risk losing your employability. This affects a lot of people – especially women. A few years out of the work force leads to a loss of your network, and a loss of your currency within your profession. It can be very hard to get these things back when you need to. Lots of women, in particular, find that when something bad happens (death or illness of their partner or marriage breakup) that it is hard to get back into their professions and they no longer have the ability to earn a good income.

I know that you will be better off in the short-term if Matt starts freelancing. However, in the longer term I think that you would be better advised to get yourself back in the game by doing some part-time work. Doing this means that you will have a bit more income to help your budget. You will also maintain your professional currency, important if you are struck by one of the Three Ds (Death, Divorce or other Disaster).

And when Caleb gets bigger and you can go full-time, you will be able to earn more than Matt would ever earn freelancing.


Martin


Thanks again Martin, some strong arguments there. But I'll keep an open mind until the voting finishes on Monday.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Steph

6 Comments:

At Friday, April 21, 2006 8:59:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rubbish - re the out of the workforce. Why not find something that you are good at and do it from home! No reason why you can't work from home and have the best of both worlds, be there for your child and earn extra income!

 
At Friday, April 21, 2006 9:38:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

are you getting your working for families handout?

 
At Monday, April 24, 2006 11:16:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To above poster who says its rubbish re being out of the work force. Are you an employer??? I am - and I can confirm for you that it is a strong disadvantage to have been out of the workforce. A s.a.h.m who has been out of the workforce for some time is not an attractive employment prospect. A lot changes in the workplace in 5 years and I'm afraid you would struggle to keep up. PS. I am a mother also.

 
At Monday, April 24, 2006 12:12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

They don't qualify for working for families. Their income is $68k. May I take this opportunity to say that all my life I have been a Labour supporter, however I am disgusted with the working for families scheme and will place my vote firmly with National in future. I venture to suggest most Aucklanders who are on higher than national average incomes but also have higher than national average expenditure, will be doing the same. Why am I paying for anyone south of the bombays to breed?

 
At Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:01:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it entirely rubbish re the if you are out of the workforce you struggle to keep up. Give me a break! As long as you have a skilled trade such as Physio or something similar to go back to there is no reason to return to an "employer". You can work for yourself from home. I do, I'm a stay at home mum with my own business doing very well and it works for a lot of stay at home mums who don't want Day care to raise their kids!

 
At Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:58:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats fine as long as you only intend to be self employed in future. If you ever do wish to get back into the workforce, hmmm, well. Its already been said.

 

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Week 3, Question 2

Poor Matt. No more bought lunches.

Now I do feel a bit sorry for him (truly!) so in solidarity I’ve decided to cancel my gym membership as well.

So together we’ll have shaved about $280 a month off our budget. And no doubt we’ll find some other ways to save thanks to all your great suggestions.

The last message from Martin Hawes really got us thinking though – that budgeting isn’t just about cutting spending but also looking at opportunities for increasing income.

So we’ve also come up with a couple of ways we can earn a bit extra to get us out of the red.

Matt thinks he can pick up the odd bit of freelance graphic design work to do on the weekends. Maybe 5 hours a week (around $200 after tax) – but the downside is he’d have less time to spend with Caleb (and me of course!)

The other option is me doing some locum physio work for one day a week.

Working 8 hours I’d probably earn about the same as Matt’s freelancing – and we’d have to pay for child care - but it would be regular income we could bank on.

What does everyone think?


Steph

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At Friday, April 21, 2006 9:42:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you should go back to work 1 day a week. Being at home 24/7 does your head in, especially with a screaming baby. You need a break from the mundane too. Also it keeps you in the work force which is important. Some may deny that it will affect your ability for reemployment but in all seriousness it is a disadvantage to be out of the work force for extended periods of time. Matt could also pick up some freelance work but perhaps schedule it for every second weekend so that you all get at least one weekend together. I can't think of anything worse than being stuck at home with a screaming baby 7 days a week. Do yourself a favour. :o)

 
At Friday, April 21, 2006 12:16:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello again, go for the locum option as Matt will need his weekends. It will give you time out and will give you some openings when you decide to go back to work full-time.

 
At Friday, April 21, 2006 3:22:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that you should go back to work one day a week. As a previous poster said it keeps your skills current and gives you some time out from being "mum" 24/7. Perhaps Matt could look at doing freelance work too though (maybe every second or third weekend) and with both lots of extra income coming in you'll be out of the red quicker.

 
At Friday, April 21, 2006 4:44:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

definetly go for the part time work. It will keep your skills current and you wont end like me who was a SAHM for 7 years then had to entirely retrain because I had lost all the knowledge by being at home.

 
At Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:01:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree that working one day a week will be good for you & help you, by maintaining proffesional contacts & skills. howevver, is there any way you could be seeing patients from home? maybe by setting up a spare room ( or even rearranging the home environment, slightly) to provide a consulting room. you could then investigate the option of hiring a varsity student to look after baby, cheaper than a child care centre.

 
At Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:18:00 AM, Blogger Jayne said...

I too think you should go back to work for 1 day a week. Keep your weekends free for family time. Do you have a friend or relative that might be happy to care for Caleb? That could save you a little money because paying them would be cheaper than other childcare options - even if they could take him once a month.

 
At Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:02:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes YOU could go back to work part-time.

But FIRST find out the cost of childcare for one day a week.. it will be VERY expensive for that one day. Plus it may be very hard to find a child care place that will take a child one day a week.

So work out the cost of your wages to what you would be paying out for a child care centre. Will it be worth it for a few dollars a week?

I assume that the part-time job will be 9am to 5pm. So that will give you time to get him there and then pick him up again at night.
Now some places charge more cos they give the kiddies a hot meal at lunch time.

Unless you can call on a friend or family member to look after him all day at maybe a cheaper rate. But they must be reliable.

Working part-time will get you back into the work force and it will keep you also up to date on the latest things happening in physio-therapy techniques.

If Matt wants to work a few extra hours in the weekend then thats his choice... he could work in the evenings for a couple of hours, so that he spend time with you all during the day to have quality family time together.

 
At Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:01:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of these posters worrying about your virtual skills in the future and getting out of the house and this and that, probbably have no idea how to budget either. Logic seems lost aswell. The point of this is to reduce debt and get back to positive territory when your there - thats when you start worrying about other things. Why in the world would you want to send the mother out to work incuring further cost (tax, transport, childcare etc etc) She can only earn $200 a day (8 hours which would mean giving away half to costs meanwhile the father can earn more in a shorter time (5 hours) with less costs. Every choice so far they really should have bit the bullet and done both but since they are not commited enough to have bought from home lunches, no gym and no sky and you can only pick one (not that its particulary real life) in this case the choice should be where the $$ are.

 

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006

Week 3, Question 1

Thanks to everyone who voted and commented on our last question – going cold turkey on our spending was another clear winner. Martin Hawes has given us some tips about how we should go forward with our budget which I’ve included below.

This week's question should get some good discussion going - it certainly has in our house!

Matt and I have been debating which “luxury” to ditch first. Top of mind were the lunches Matt buys each day vs my gym membership and Pay TV subscription. Not sure how I ended up having two items on the table but there you go. Come on girls, stick up for me here!

Anyway, here’s what Martin has to say about budgeting:

Matt and Steph,

A budget is not all about scrimping and saving. It is deciding what you want to spend your money on, doing the things that give you good value and life enjoyment and not doing the things which don’t. (Your gym membership might fit into the first category but Pay TV???)

When you take another look at your budget on Sorted, you should keep a few things in mind:
  1. A budget has two sides: income and expenditure. A dollar of extra income is as good as a dollar cut from expenditure. Is there any work that you can do, Steph? Matt’s income is good, but can he improve it even further? When did he last ask for a pay rise? Don’t ignore the income side of the budget – it’s not all about taking a
    chainsaw to expenditure.
  2. Have you got any records of what your expenditure has actually been? It is much easier if you can look back to see where money has been going in the past.
  3. You need a way to monitor your performance against the budget. I can guarantee that your actual expenditure will not be what you planned in the budget and you need to know what differences there are.
  4. Watch out for “petty cash” – money that comes out of the pocket for little things. For example, Matt’s brown bag lunch might not sound a lot, but it sure adds up. If he spends $8 on lunch each day that’s $40 per week, $160 per month and $1920 per annum. Go on a money hunt, to find what those small things are - Carla’s idea of a little notebook is great.
  5. Don’t make the budget so tight that you can’t stick to it. It’s a bit like dieting: if you make it too tough you are likely to throw in the towel and give up!

Thanks Martin - some good food for thought there! Let’s see how the vote goes over the next few days.

Steph

10 Comments:

At Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:19:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think its hardly fair you are only showing what matts luxury costs, what is the weekly amount for the gym and pay tv?

 
At Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:26:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

DUR! to above poster...obviously they are around the same cost! Man there are some idiots who post here! *Wonders if people who are so thick should even bother posting*

 
At Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:28:00 PM, Blogger Carla said...

Hi Steph :)

I too would like to know the amounts for the Gym and PayTV, if you had to choose one or the other, what would it be?

Do you use your Gym membership often? if its the only thing you have for YOU then i say dont give it up. if it is an expensive membership and you want to keep going, is there another plan or a cheaper gym you can join? (you have a huge choice around you, your very lucky!) do some shopping, see if you can minimise the amount your paying. if you dont use the Gym often, then its easy, yep give it up, walking and running and hiring fitness dvds from your local video store or library are cheap options too.

Sky TV, i love it! thats MY treat! however it costs us half as much now as it used to, look at the channels you watch, do you watch sport often? do you watch movies often? by taking these two options away from your subscription its another saver without having to give it up, also give Telecom a call, they do a deal with Sky which makes your sky bill even smaller for the basic channels.

$8 a day on lunch doesnt seem much at the time, but it sure adds up! i have the same problem at the moment getting hubby to cut down on buying lunches, and i try to make them for him often... unfortunatly it gets left in the fridge a lot! (fighting a losing battle here.. stubborn man!) a $1 loaf of bread and some marmite lasts for ages and even if you go through a couple of loafs per week, its still a big save, let hubby go food shopping with you, go through what he likes to eat and make nice lunches etc, maybe say he gets to buy his lunch once or twice a week as HIS treat, remember he cant miss out too!

 
At Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:01:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, my partner and I earn just under 90k (and there's just the two of us) and no WAY would we spend $8 a day on lunch! Whats wrong with packing a home made sandwich and fruit etc etc?? Also get rid of the pay TV, join the library, BUT keep the gym though. I would sacrifice anything before I got rid of my gym membership. Good luck :)

 
At Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:31:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops sorry put this under the wrong thingy :/ Lol I really dont no what I am doing! But here goes again:

Hi there Steph,

With regards to this weeks question - I want to be really honest. Not only is a budget about comprimise, so is a relationship. I do not know why only one of you have got to miss out on their luxery - how about you BOTH cut something out. Yep I think Matt should start packing his lunch as $8 a day soon adds up to a few packets of nappies a week! But in saying that, you too should drop something. Maybe the gym membership (if you pay as you go and there are no costs involved in stopping) as at least with pay tv you and Matt can sit down together to watch it. If there are other costs in stopping ur membership them maybe pay tv is the thing to go. It is completly up to you two whether you both want to drop something or not and wheather you want to drop something you can both use together or drop the things only one of you reap the benefits for.
P.S You can keep just as fit by going for walks and using cans from the cupboards as weigts!! (trust me, I have been in ur situation and I got that desperate ahha)

Stacey

 
At Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:57:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Matt spends $8 a day on lunch.
You spend "X" amount on the gym per week.
Both of you spend "X" amount on Sky pay TV..

All three (3) things are luxuries..

Matt can make his lunch or you could make it for him the night before. (So he wont forget his lunch each morning when you put it in the fridge.. put his house/car keys on top of the lunch.)

Steph, Cancel your gym membership. You can go walking and put the little one in a stroller (you do have one, don't you?). That way you are getting some exercise... and FRESH air into both you and the little one's lungs... If it raining, put on a jacket and stroller cover over the stroller.
There are heaps of places to walk around Grey Lynn and lots of exciting things to show the little one... Now is the time to teach him about flowers and different smells and what the world looks like... make the walk exciting for him. This is the time that is most important in his learning.

The Sky pay TV - cancel the subscription. I bet you have a video or DVD.. so hire a movie once a week... cos I reckon you were not watching Sky much anyways.


That way you will save heaps... and pay off that mortgage a hell of a lot quicker.

Buying lunch, gym membership and Sky pay TV are luxuries items....

 
At Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:26:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well the lunches cost $40, not sure what the gym membership costs but mine was $13 a week.Based on that, $27 would be on pay tv per week to match up to matts lunches... I HIGHLY doubt pay tv would be that much, and if a gym membership is any more id be in shock.

Therefore i think matt should cut back on the lunches(ave 1-2 per week)as I feel they would cost more than the pay tv and gym membership per week...

Having said that, perhaps the sky tv could be cut off? Im sure its not just Steph who watches it!

 
At Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:38:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

gym membership, sky tv & bought lunches, everyday?? girl, you aren't going to budget very successfully like this! if you don't already have a good pram, invest in one. take baby out for regular walks, even if it is raining. a storm cover & warm blanket/clothes will keep him happy, and a raincoat for you. sky tv? ditch it. instead rent one or two dvds or videos a week, and have a movie night, with home made popcorn, for munchies. $40 per week for bought lunches? no way. matt needs to get used to home prepared lunches. a yoghurt, salad sandwich & piece of fruit is nutritious & much more economical.

 
At Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ditch the lunches, they can easily be replaced by making lunch every day or taking left over dinners.

 
At Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:48:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe you could cut back a bit both ways here instead of Matt giving up all his lunches OR you giving up the gym AND pay TV. Thta seems a harsh thing to do and as your planner said it's like a diet - too strict and you end up binging. If I try to budget too tightly I go and spend just for the hell of it! So maybe, yes Matt startts taking his lunch from home BUT once a week or on payday he can buy his lunch and he'll enjoy it as a treat. As for the gym and pay TV, maybe give one up but not both. Other posters have given excellent suggestions for alternative fitness and entertainment. Maybe you could take up a craft (beading is fun or people are willing to pay for those fluffy scarves if you can knit) and sell what you make and the money can be for your luxuries which you'll appreciate more. Also shop for deals - some companies offer power, phone, internet and Sky in a package. Good luck! :-))

 

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