Friday, May 05, 2006

Golden opportunity?

Hi all

Here's a short and sweet comment from Martin Hawes, on whether we should take up Matt's opportunity to join the workplace savings scheme.

Steph
This is the breakthrough you have been wanting – a great chance to get ahead. Think about the opportunity: someone is prepared to give you a dollar for every dollar that you invest. That is a good deal!

You have to find a way to do it. Employer-subsidised Super Schemes are one of the exceptions to that rule of paying off your mortgage before you start to invest. Do not turn down an opportunity like this.

Martin

Couldn't be much clearer, could it? I'm feeling quite enthusiastic about this now!

Steph

1 Comments:

At Saturday, May 06, 2006 11:45:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a workplace super scheme, where our contributions are matched 150%, up to 5% of our salary. After 2 years, we become eligible to receive 20% of their contribution (ie equivalent to 30% interest!) as well on resignation, with an extra 10% per year going up to 100% after 10 years.
I have just resigned from my job after nearly 5 years in the scheme, and am getting paid out. Let me just say, that it has definately been worth my while being in the scheme. Go for it. If you can't afford the whole 3%, put in as much as you can for the meantime. Who else is going to offer to match your savings, and make sure you can't break into them!

 

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Week 5, Question 2

So it’s “no” to term deposit saving and “yes” to upping our mortgage payments.

Your votes made the decision clear on this one but thanks also to the helpful feedback from Martin, tiktok and JB.

However, Matt’s employer has just thrown a spanner in the works (potentially a nice spanner, though!). He’s starting up a workplace savings scheme and has offered everyone a place in it. The deal is Matt can contribute up to 3% of his gross pay each month and Matt’s employer will match it dollar for dollar.

So that would take care of our surplus (around $2,000), but could be a better option than putting it into a term deposit or even the mortgage? Or maybe this just isn’t the right time for us to be looking at retirement saving?

Martin Hawes will give us his view later this afternoon.

What do you think?

Steph

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At Friday, May 05, 2006 3:52:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Normally I would say go with the savings scheme as basically your earning more on any contributions made (compared to a reduction in interest if you applied that budget surplus to your mortgage)...

However, what are the terms of the scheme?

Is the money invested and hence you're exposed to high(er) risk (i.e. potentially, could you get negative returns with the scheme)?

How long must you be in the scheme before you can withdraw money?

Can you elect to not make payments just in case an emergency crops up?

As your surplus is so low, less than $15 per week, I'm a bit hesitant to say go for it without knowing more information about the scheme...

 

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Wednesday, May 03, 2006

Budget update etc.

Hi everyone

In response to tiktok’s comment we’ve put up some screenshots of the revised budget we worked through on Sorted’s Budget Calculator. More income and less spending!

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But is there room for some saving? Here’s Martin Hawes’ view:

Steph

Having money in the bank while you have a mortgage is a really bad arrangement. In effect, you are lending the bank your money (the term deposit), the bank puts a profit margin on and then lends the money back to you.

The result is that while you’re paying 9% interest on your mortgage, the bank only pays you 7% on your term Deposit. Then, of course, the IRD takes its share of the interest you are being paid and so you end up getting around 5.5%. That is not a good deal.

You are much better using any spare money that you have paying off the mortgage. To be better off you would have to get over 9% after tax from an investment – that’s not easy and would certainly mean taking some risk.

There are some exceptions, but most people are better to clear the mortgage before they start to invest.

Martin


Oh well, doesn’t look like such a smart plan at this stage after all. But let’s see where your votes take us.


Steph

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At Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

$180 a week for groceries? Wow that is heaps, i only spend $130 a week and that is 2 adults and a newborn - who uses heaps of nappys and formula. I think you could make a slight cut back there, food prices are supposed to be cheaper in Auckland.

 

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Tuesday, May 02, 2006

Week 5, Question 1

Phew, that was close! Your voting was pretty much 50/50 all the way on whether I should start paying off my student loan or not. But the weight of opinion in your comments has pushed me away from doing this, for the time-being anyway.

We’ve done some more work on our budget. After keeping track of our actual spending in the last month, we realised we'd over-estimated some of our expenses like baby clothes for Caleb (we've managed with the bagloads of hand-me-downs from his cousins so far!), and luxuries like wine and takeaways. We've also decided not to spend any money buying new appliances this year - that new dryer will have to wait.

The result is that our budget calculations on Sorted now show a projected surplus of around $2,000.

So the next question is, what should we do with it? One idea we’ve had is to get into the “saving habit” again and put away $50 each fortnight from my pay.

Then at the end of the year, along with the $700 left from our emergency fund, we’d have $2000 to put into a term deposit and start earning some interest for a change. The other option of course is to put the same amount of money onto our new fortnightly mortgage repayments.

So it all boils down to whether we should start saving a little now or pay more off our debt … what dya reckon?

Steph

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At Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:19:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please post your new budget so we can see figures...

Also, the extra should be used to reduce debt. The cost of interest on debt is higher than that earned on deposits.

By all means build up your emergency fund but after that put it all towards debt (car repayments first then the mortgage).

The only time it makes sence to save, as opposed to reducing debt, is when you can earn more from the savings. Matt might have a Super Scheme with his firm that matches dollar for dollar (?) - in that case you should run the figures on returns etc to calculate the best option for your surplus.

 
At Tuesday, May 02, 2006 8:46:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put that money on your mortgage

By putting that extra $50 on your mortgage a fortnight, you would save yourselves truckloads on interest (and years off your mortgage - in the long run...)

You should also be able to redraw these funds (depending on what type of mortgage facility you have) - so also acting as a buffer for unforeseen circumstances.

Check with your bank first to ensure you would not be penalised for paying too much in excess of your minimum payment.

BUT...

If you would like the comfort of having money in a savings account, look out for a 'on-call' account which attracts competitive interest rates to term deposits (you should find something for about 7.40% with no account fees). That way you start earning decent interest from day one with the ability to add to it fortnightly and draw it out whenever.

Bit trickier this question, as my head says one thing and my heart says another.

 

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